Potion of Luck not so lucky after all
Gold Makers on the Warcraft 7.0 PTR were in for an unpleasant surprise yesterday when reports came in that the Mists of Pandaria Potion of Luck no longer works.
This is the main gold-making potion that gives treasure chests when farming in Guo Lai Halls, Sra’Vess, and the Skyrange Goats.
Luckily the keys do still drop from Guo Lai Halls, but unfortunately Sra’vess and Skyrange will lose their gold making from Patch 7.0 onwards.
If you wish to farm Sra’vess or Skyrange Goats, you should do this now while you still can.
Thanks to @FLoutdoorGuy
Thanks to @MNoonchester
Potion of Treasure Finding is (as yet) unaffected which means that Cataclysm farm spots are still viable.
There is also another unpleasant surprise waiting for players in Cataclysm raids. Elvine tweeted that raid drops were having their gold reduced by about 25%
Once again, if you want to farm Cataclysm raids, you should do this now, while you still can.
Together with the changes to Blood of Sargeras, these nerfs are an assault on gold making by crafting and by farming.
Presumably to harshly usher more players into the Broken Isles content.
Whatever Blizzard’s motivations, of one thing we can be sure. Gold-making will be changing in Warcraft:Legion.
I’ll be here to guide you.
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 39 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling, snatch lists, and farming gold making. Want more updates on Warcraft Legion? Catch me on Twitch or support my Patreon for exclusive pre-release Legion Gold Guides.
Transmog-mas is coming
6 years ago, Glyphmas was one week when all players needed to suddenly purchase all their glyphs again.
With a headsup from the gold making community I prepared for Glyphmas by crafting thousands of glyphs, and earned myself a gold cap in one week.
When is Transmog-mas?
Demand for transmogs is expected to start, slowly, now, because of the release of the addon Legion Wardrobe which allows players to look at their armor by appearance.
Demand will increase tenfold with the release of Patch 7.0.
Patch 7.0 is on the Public Test Realms (PTR) now.
Demand will increase with the release of World of Warcraft:Legion (August 30, 2016).
Legion players will
- be busy leveling and acquiring new armor, and losing their old transmogs
- not want to be farming for old transmog
Warcraft gold farmers in particular will be more excited about the new herbs and ore than about going back to Zul Farak to look for some interesting new boots to sell!
Which items to store?
Armor
Which items to dump
Wands, common-looking offhands, bracers, necks and rings. Most fist weapons, except the unusual ones.
Which items to buy now
Chest
Head
Shoulders
Gloves
Belts
Leg
Boots
To a lesser extent: cloaks
Weapons
No weapons will drop in Legion. The only weapon appearances will be from your class Artifact. For the first few months, players will be delighted with their new artifact looks. I predict that some players, however, will be unhappy being the 100th paladin with Ashbringer, and look for more unique appearances. This is when they will want the weapon appearances.
Therefore, the weapon demand will not be as high as armor, but it will still exist. Scoop up the very best bargains as you see them (10% value prices, for example) and you may find yourself being the market leader.
Shirts
Illusions
Weapon enchants. Unfortunately, some illusions drop in Legion direct from bosses, with no need for an enchanter to create enchanting scrolls. At the moment, not everyone knows this, so continue to sell your weapon scrolls.
What price for Transmogs
Charge between 150% to 500% of your usual transmog prices.
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 39 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling, snatch lists, and farming gold making. Want more updates on Warcraft Legion? Catch me on Twitch or support my Patreon for exclusive pre-release Legion Gold Guides.
Blood of Sargeras changes in progress
Beta continues to be beta, with changes to Blood of Sargeras in progress.
1) General World Quests/Dailies no longer drop 2-3 Blood of Sargeras, they are nerfed to drop only 1 blood.
2) However World Crafting Quests now spawn more frequently and drop more blood.
3) Disenchanting rare and epic items will give blood of sargeras
Ornyx, community manager, said:
You will also see Blood of Sargeras from Disenchanting Rare and Epic items in a future beta build, as well as an increase in the cadence and quantity of Blood of Sargeras from Crafting World Quests in the Broken Isles.
The last 2 changes will take place in an upcoming beta build, but change 1, a nerf of Blood of Sargeras in world drops is live now.
Blood of Sargeras from Dungeons and Raids
It is unknown how many blood will drop from dungeons/heroics/mythics/raids at the moment, and whether these are from trash, quests, or bosses.
How does the Blood of Sargeras change influence my choice of professions in Legion?
Enchanter/Tailors
Your butt is saved. You will be able to disenchant and get Blood of Sargeras that your Tailor needs. This is a strong combination!
Dual gatherers
Your bags are going to be full of Blood of Sargeras that you don’t need at the moment. You will need them later for upgrades with Obliterum. Your butt is semi-saved.
Dual crafters
You are still in trouble. Game designers specifically want characters to each have a gathering and a crafting profession because that’s what they have.
They think that it is wrong to have 1 skinner/miner char plus 1 leatherworker/blacksmith alt.
You will be at a disadvantage to a player who has 1 skinner/leatherworker and 1 miner/blacksmith.
I am a dual crafter. Can I still craft in Legion?
Ion also tweeted me saying that dual crafters would still be able to craft however I believe he was focusing on whether an item would be craftable, not whether you will remain competitive with equal opportunity to craft as a gatherer/crafter character.
Can I stay as a dual crafter?
This depends entirely on whether the Blood-Per-Effort or Blood-Per-Hour can be equal to the blood/hr for a gather-crafter toon.
If your character is a tank or healer and can spend a lot of time in dungeons, enough that your blood/hr is the same for someone who is running around herbing and mining.
If you do not want to make gold, if you do not want to be competitive with the other players, then you can just craft casually and not worry about being the best. If you are happy to continue to have a crippling disadvantage, then
I have unobtainable patterns, and very expensive irreplaceable patterns, what can I do?
First: stay calm. There may still be some magical change that helps you.
Take stock of your alts and which professions you have. If you are going to drop a particular profession, do you have any alts that could take it up. (ignoring that unobtainable/irreplaceable question for now).
Use this tool to check which patterns you have on your characters/toons. It’s made by a very clever player on one of my EU realms.
http://www.kruithne.net/recipes/
Check which of your professions is the least effort to remake, and whether it is achieveable at all.
Check for materials needed to level that profession, in your auction house, or find farming guides for the materials.
Warlords of Draenor is a ridiculously easy time to level up new professions, especially a new gathering profession, and especially if you have Pathfinder/Flying in WoD.
Legion is also really easy to level up gathering professions, but start leveling your gathering professions at level 100, so you can do the gathering professions (yes, there are some!) at the same time as your regular play.
What I will do
My main character is a dual crafter, supported by a dual gatherer.
I have 39 unobtainable patterns.
It would be fair to say I’m devastated.
I will need to delete my profession with these patterns in order to remain competitive in Legion.
I will need a gatherer/crafter character in order to have equal opportunity to create, to craft, and to profit. I have no choice.
It’s heartbreaking that Warcraft thinks this is a good way to reward investment.
I will stay a dual crafter for now, investigate which patterns I need to replace, repurchase, refarm on an alt. If I can get them before Legion, then I’ll get them. If not, I will take it from there. I can adapt. It is not fair that I am required to adapt.
I will continue to research all the professions and find the best combinations, and farming spots for you.
Why is it a big deal?
Players have sacrificed time to get these patterns. They have spent gold, which needed work to gather. Instead of doing that work, I could have been raiding, mount collecting, or achievement hunting. Why is gold making work less deserving?
Why am I, a dual crafter with a dual gatherer alt, less deserving than a crafter/gatherer? It makes me angry.
Reminder: Blood of Sargeras will drop in Legion from
- World quests (tiny amount)
- World crafting quests (a little more)
- Fishing (tiny amount) with completion of the artifact and application of artifact power correctly.
- Blood seeker’s shoulder enchant (tiny amount) requires exalted with The Wardens and unable to apply a competing shoulder enchant.
- Gathering – mining, herbalism, skinning – a substantial amount.
- Dungeons/raids – unknown amount yet.
- Disenchanting – some blood, unknown amount yet.
- Alchemy – it can be transmuted on a daily cooldown.
Information is correct as of 18 June 2016.
How will this affect players who don’t care about gold making?
How will this effect the entire World of Warcraft economy?
Your local auction house will have two sets of sellers in them: those with plenty of Blood of Sargeras, and those without. Those without will have to compete with the big boys.
Supply will be lower.
Prices will be higher.
Gold will change hands from those able to buy wowtokens to gather-crafters with sufficient Blood of Sargeras. These items will be high priced.
Lower supplier will push up the regular player’s need for gold, in turn forcing them to buy more wowtokens.
Players with gather-crafters will be able to pay for their subscription using their gold, sell wowtokens.
Regular players will have to pay very high prices for their purchases of crafted items on the Auction House.
In short, gold will go from regular player to AH mogul, who then forces regular players to buy more wowtokens. Take a moment to consider who can profit from this increased demand for gold buying.
Blizzard.
And what company doesn’t want to increase profits?
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 39 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling, snatch lists, and farming gold making. Want more updates on Warcraft Legion? Catch me on Twitch or support my Patreon for exclusive pre-release Legion Gold Guides.
Tailoring Bags in Legion
Tailoring
Undying Bag (Datamined but not yet in game) 32 slot, BoE 100 X Shal’dorei Silk, 100 X Blood of Sargeras. Likely to be changed to Imbued Silkweave rather than raw Shal’dorei Silk.
Silkweave Satchel only 24 slots, it takes only 9 Shal’dorei Silk and is BoE so you can send it to your bank alts. The pattern is from a world quest “Sew Far, Sew Good” in the tailor’s shop in Dalaran.
Non Tailoring Bags in Legion
Madman’s Luggage 34 slot (unique) BoP Sold by the Mad Merchant for 1/2 million gold.
Totem Tote 30 slot (unique) BoP available from High Mountain. Requires exalted with Highmountain Tribe. costs 1760g with exalted reputation. You can only buy one per character/toon and it is only worth buying if 1760g is cheaper than your costs for Hexweave Bags.
Totem Tote
Old Warlords of Draenor bags for Legion
Hexweave Bag 30 slot bag, craftable with Warlords of Draenor materials. 100 Hexweave Cloth (made from sumptuous fur) and 10 Sorcerous Earth. Patterns takes 5 “Secret of Draenor” in your garrison or Warspear/Stormshield, Ashran.
World Quest bags in Warcraft Legion
Vile Stalkerskin Pouch 28 slot, BoP from world quest unknown yet. Sounds like Felhounds to me!
Addie’s Ink-Stained Satchel 26, BoP from world quest “Note-Eating Goats” in Highmountain.
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 39 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling, snatch lists, and farming gold making. Want more updates on Warcraft Legion? Catch me on Twitch or support my Patreon for exclusive pre-release Legion Gold Guides.
Blood of Sargeras – an update
A Blizzard Games Designer responded to players’ protests on the World of Warcraft forums today.
Hi friends – I just wanted to chime in that in the next beta build you should see more Blood of Sargeras dropping from non-tradeskill sources (dungeons, in particular).
Unfortunately, it makes only a small difference.
What does this Blood of Sargeras change mean?
- World quests are still awarding 2 blood per completion
- Gathering is still awarding blood that you cannot gain from crafting professions.
- Dual Gatherers, Dual crafters, Tailor/Enchanters, are still handicapped compared to a gatherer-crafter character.
- However, they are slightly less handicapped compared to before.
- Players spending time gathering can’t spend that time running dungeons.
- We do not know, yet, how much Blood of Sargeras will drop in dungeons or by other means.
Continuing problems
If you have a dual crafter such as an Engineer/Leatherworking, you will still get less than a skinner/leatherworker or a miner/engineer.
Unless the dungeon drops per hour become equal to gathering drops per hour (and even then, non gatherers are forced into dungeons in all their spare time) then gather-crafters will continue to have an unfair advantage.
Constructive
As a reminder, Blizzard want to reward players who have invested in their professions, but it seems that if you have invested in the wrong professions, then you are going to be at a disadvantage.
Players have been offering constructive rather than angry feedback. This makes me proud of the community. The constructive feedback seems to be heard, and we may get a further change. If this happens, then I will of course keep you up to date.
Summary
If you have dual gathering, drop one gathering and pick up a crafting profession and level it with cheap Warlords of Draenor mats now.
If you have dual crafting, be aware that you may need to make a choice in the future whether to trust in your ability to complete world quests and dungeons, or whether to dump one of your crafting professions to pick up a gathering profession. You may need to weigh up the cost of relearning that deleted crafting profession on another character, and whether your patterns are even available or affordable.
If you have alchemy, please also watch this space and read up on any Legion Alchemy threads you find on other blogs. The Blood you get from your transmute may well be useful in creating Obliterum for upgrading gear.
If you are a tailor/enchanter, watch this space, as your problem has not yet been addressed.
Request:
Continue to highlight the problem with @warcraftdevs on twitter, and if you have Legion Beta access, add your opinion on the forums here. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/20743964229
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 39 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling, snatch lists, and farming gold making. Want more updates on Warcraft Legion? Catch me on Twitch or support my Patreon for exclusive pre-release Legion Gold Guides.
The Blood of Sargeras Legion Beta Controversy
and why it matters!
[SPOILERS]
What is Blood of Sargeras?
Blood of Sargeras is a Bind on Pickup professions material found in Broken Isles in the Legion expansion.
Where can you get Blood of Sargeras?
In meaningful quantities:
From gathering ore (leystone ore, felslate), skinning (stonehide leather, stormscale, felhide) and from herbalism (foxflower, fjarnskaggl, starlight rose, dreamleaf and aethril).
In negligible quantities:
Fishing – if you have the fishing artifact and have leveled up both your fishing and your fishing artifact, and sacrificed Artifact Power which would be better spent on your main weapon.
Drops from killing mobs – if you have grinded reputation with The Wardens faction to exalted, and bought the shoulder enchant “Boon of the Bloodhunter“. The drop rate, if it is anything like the other shoulder enchant drops, will be very low. In order to grind reputation you need to do some of the rarer world quests, which can award 250 reputation each. It requires 42,000 reputation to go from neutral to exalted. If you do 4 world bosses per day, it will take 42 days to grind. If the Wardens daily quests pop, this can shave off a little time. After 42 days you will be able to start gathering Blood in negligible amounts.
World quest rewards: Hand in an amount of gathered material (again, requires gathering!) or complete a world boss quest kill to receive a tiny number of Blood of Sargeras.
Professions – if you have alchemy and have leveled it to max, and have performed “wild transmutations”, and been lucky enough to learn the blood transmute, and you have the reagents.
Wild transmutes gives you a chance on discovering different Transmutes, one of which is called “Transmute: Blood of Sargeras”. You will need reagents:
- 5 Black Transmutagen
- 4 Viscous Transmutagen
- 3 Oily Transmutagen
Unfortunately, this has a daily cooldown.
UNCONFIRMED: number of Blood of Sargeras received (1-5?)
Worse: as an alchemist, you probably already have herbalism as your second profession, giving you sufficient Blood of Sargeras, and nothing to use it for.
That sounds like a great idea!
“This is great, they are gating professions and high-end crafted items behind items that are hard to get!” you may think to yourself.
Blood of Sargeras are used to craft ilevel 800 epic items.
That sounds like it’s raid gear?
No. It’s not raid gear. It’s pre-dungeon gear.
some world quests offer ilvl 800+ items, normal dungeons award ilvl 810, and heroic dungeons award from ilvl 825+
You will need to gather Blood of Sargeras in order to craft over ilevel 800. For leatherworkers, tailors, blacksmiths this is half of your patterns, the other half having no use except for undergeared, non-questing alts, or for disenchanting into Leylight Shards. It’s also used by engineers, scribes (for relics), enchanters (relics/toy), and jewelcrafters (relics).
Already gated
Most of the professions patterns are already gated behind world quests, dungeons, and potentially behind raid kills. There is no need to also gate the materials.
The Blood of Sargeras Problem
Dual gatherers will have BoP blood that they can’t use.
Dual crafters will have no blood, and be unable to craft.
Tailor/enchanters will have no blood, and be unable to craft.
Alchemists will be confused by a transmute cooldown that provides a BoP item they can’t use.
“So just do without”
This is not like Felblight which you can gather from world bosses and trade to your alts. Nor is it like Motes of Harmony that you can farm from drops. Without a gathering profession, you cannot have a (meaningful) crafting profession.
What are Blizzard going to do about this?
They are looking at buffing the amount of Blood that drops from world bosses.
This is not enough.
Dual gatherers will still be screwed.
Alchemist will still be bemused.
From interview with Wowhead
Where can I complain about this?
You can’t.
Unless you are a beta tester, you cannot comment on the beta professions forum, which is where most of the complaints are taking place.
This fundamental change to professions is something you can neither complain about, or do anything about.
Blizzard has made a decision that affects everyone who wants to craft items over ilevel 800.
The discussion about a fundamental change to professions should be open to all players of Warcraft, not just those on the Beta.
Flight/No Flight
This is like the Flight/No Flight argument, and Blizzard can simply go back on their decision in a future patch.
That will be no use for launch date!
It will also be heartbreaking for players who have had to dump one of their crafting professions along with extremely rare, very expensive, or unobtainable patterns.
Personally I will have to choose between deleting unobtainable recipes, or deleting extremely expensive patterns I may never be able to regain.
Deleted forever.
Even if/when Blizzard change their minds about the BoP status.
It’s worse than the Flight/No Flight arguments between players and developers.
It’s not comparable to being without flight, it’s comparable to being forced to delete your mounts.
Do Blizzard want to reward players or punish them?
“In Legion, professions are geared more towards the players that really love getting invested in professions.”
Blizzard say they want professions to be rewarding. Enforcing professions choices, enforcing profession deletion, this is a punishment.
How you can help
[bctt tweet=”@warcraftdevs make Blood of Sargeras BoA. Don’t punish crafters in Legion! ” via=”no”]
You could try getting into the beta so that you can comment on the beta forums. You can try commenting on the professions forum and hope someone reads. You can try raising awareness.
What does this mean for you?
Should you change your professions?
Possibly, but not yet.
Blizzard said during the Legion Summit that they will not change Blood of Sargeras before Legion launch. They also said no flying in Warlords of Draenor.
Wow are professions in Legion bad?
No, they’re great. Gathering is improved, fishing is amazing, crafting is a bit lacklustre, but some of the engineering and alchemy items are exciting.
My Legion Gold Making Guide will go into every profession in depth, and disclose which ones are best, which ones work well together, and how they fit in with the new world quests, reputations, class order halls, and dungeons.
What professions should I have for Legion?
If you have a gathering and a crafting profession, keep these.
but:
If you have dual gathering, drop one today and add a crafting profession. There are plentiful cheap mats available now, at the end of the Warlords of Draenor expansion, that will allow you to level up a crafting profession quickly.
If you have enchanting and tailoring, or dual crafting professions please consider very carefully before you drop a profession.
If you have an alchemist, you should consider dropping herbalism and taking a crafting profession instead of herbalism, otherwise you will be transmuting Blood of Sargeras, and have no use for them.
If you don’t have fishing, you need to get fishing to max now. Including on all your alts.
Blizzard wants to increase involvement with the world. They want you to go out and farm. Farming has now become Blizard’s preferred way of making gold, over crafting. It’s not just legendaries that drop world-wide, but world boss quests can give over 1,000g. This will make it mandatory for all of your alts to be out killing bosses at least once a week. Now would be a great time to get all your characters to level 100 in preparation. Take them to LFR to practice their rotations and learn their spells and abilities. Unlike dungeons, LFR is not locked by proving grounds.
Possible Solutions to the Blood of Sargeras Problem
The best solution: Make Blood of Sargeras into a Bind on Account – BoA item.
This sounds good, you will be able to trade from your gatherer to your crafter. However, it could mean players going to slow small servers with low populations and low economies in order to gather the items, and then mailing Blood of Sargeras across to their mains on higher population servers with faster economies in order to get more gold than on the small server. This could bleed the small server in a detrimental way.
There is no need for alchemists to have a transmute for a BoP Blood of Sargeras that they can not use. Removing the Bind on Pickup, making in Bind on Account, will reinstate its purposefulness.
Alternatively, Blizzard could make the patterns account-wide, same as heirlooms, mounts, pets, and now appearances (transmog wardrobe). This is unlikely before the next expansion.
Alternatively, create a Blood of Sargeras trader NPC that allows you to trade your non-soulbound items, or some currency that you can get from dungeons/raids.
Alternatively, make Blood of Sargeras a reward from significant world quests, dungeons or raids.
My prefered solution is that Blizzard had employed a competent economist with understanding of the legitimate trading and crafting and gold making in World of Warcraft, and this item should never have been Bind on Pickup.
This should never have been an issue.
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 39 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling, snatch lists, and farming gold making. Want more updates on Warcraft Legion? Catch me on Twitch or support my Patreon for exclusive pre-release Legion Gold Guides.