Isle of Thunder Farming
In the same way that we recently revisited Timeless Isle, I’ve been researching whether returning to Isle of Thunder, in Pandaria, is a good gold making resource for World of Warcraft players.
You will need to be a mid-geared level 90, or preferably a level 100 character to farm here.
With so many ways to make gold on Isle of Thunder, it would be easy to become bogged down in the detail, so during the research I focused on obtaining some of the most profitable items.
Approx Market Values (Dec 2015)
Sealed Tome of the Lost Legion EU 20,000g, US 25-30k
Filthling pet EU & US 2-3,000g,
Sunreaver Micro-Sentry pet EU 1-1.5k , US 2-3,000g
Sealed Tome of the Lost Legion
This one is for the warlock farmers in World of Warcraft.
The Sealed Tome of the Lost Legion drops from rare mobs on the Isle of Thunder.
2% chance means that on average you need 50 kills.
There are several rares around Isle of Thunder. In the days before Cross Realm Assist, you would have needed to navigate the Isle, on foot, because there is no flying in this area. If you still want to do this, you can use TomTom and NPC_Scan addons to find the rares.
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Tomtom Waypoints
/way 35 82
/way 51 71
/way 35 62
/way 54 53
/way 61 50
/way 59 36
/way 64 49
/way 54 36
/way 45 30
/way 49 90
/way 48 25
/way 39 82
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NPC_scan addon will pick up the Isle of Thunder rares for you automatically. All the rares spawn in the same points or roam in a very small area nearby.
Now that Cross Realm Assist and Group Finder allow easy realm hopping, it’s quicker to stay in one area, and jump realms to make the rares come to you instead. I recommend that area of the South Coast.
South Coast Rares
Ra’sha
Ku’lai the Skyclaw
and Haywire Sunreaver Construct
These three rares are all within easy reach of each other, if you find you have exhausted one rare spawn point and want to try another, you don’t need to travel far.
Who can loot this?
The item is only lootable by warlocks.
You can see the item in the rare mob if it drops – but you won’t meet the requirements to loot it as a non-warlock.
You can still loot another one after you’ve completed the green fire quest.
Warlocks can loot more than one, but can only hold 1 in your inventory because they are “unique”.
So simply loot one and put it on the AH, then go farm another one.
Haywire Sunreaver Construct
This rare drops a tradeable pet, the Sunreaver Micro-Sentry. Although bind on pickup, once learned, it can be caged and then sold, traded, or posted on the auction house. Keep cross realm jumping until the pet drops from the Haywire Sunreaver Construct on the beach at the south of Ihgaluk Crag.
When we researched and tried this on the livestream, the droprate was pretty low. So we moved on to investigate another nearby pet
Filthling
The Filthling pet drops from the nearby filth pits of the saurok mobs just to the north of the Haywire Construct rare spawn area. Kill the Quivering Filth mobs to cause a larger, elite Quivering Filth to spawn. It’s the larger elites that drop the Half-Empty Food Container. When you loot the BoP item, learn it, then find it in your pet journal, and right click to cage it. Once it’s caged, you can put it on the Auction House.
Filthlings sell for 2-3,000g at time of writing (December 2015)
Reckles Farms Filthlings
Prices
If you are reading this blog post in the future (hello from the past!) then these items should still drop, and you can check the prices on The Undermine Journal or at Wowuction.com
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 32 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling snatch lists, and farming gold making.
2015 in Review
Looking back at 2015, it was an amazing year.
What did I do in 2015?
Re-started Livestreaming on Twitch and gained my first 1,000 followers. Inspired by WKJezz and Nomanis especially.
Connected with 4,000 people on Twitter.
Came out on Twitter as having a diagnosis of Autism Spectrum. And very proud I am of my singularities and quirks, no shame in my disability needs.
Hit 23 Million Gold, mostly due to my Garrisons,
Hired a second Community Manager (Amanda aka Sparkles)
Learned Flying in Draenor
Gained a server first mythic boss in Highmaul (and was quickly surpassed by the other guilds!)
Was treated to a #FriendshipMoose Heroic Archimonde kill and earned the Grove Warden mount
Gave away a few gifts of 10,000g to livestream viewers
Gave away an Enchanted Fey Dragon to a blog-by-email subscriber
Gave away other mounts, including a Vial of the Sands as a Christmas gift to one twitch viewer
Wrote and then released a 13 week Free Gold Making Email Course
Wrote and then release a huge Garrison Gold Guide, encouraged by Power Word: Gold
Wrote 96 new farming and gold making guides here on the blog
Started the Spectral Tiger Owners Club
Recorded my first podcast segments
Leveled 105 battle pets to level 25
Held a 10 year anniversary party in my garrison attended by people from around the world
Helped make a WoWtoken for a single mum who could not afford her subscription
Things I want to do in 2016
Continue to battle my anxiety to livestream on Twitch
Start the YouTube channel, which already has a professionally designed banner!
Sell 20 Minion of Grumpus
Give away One Million Gold
Start World of Warcraft:Legion with 30 million gold
Gain another 1,000 Twitch followers, and 4,000 Twitter followers.
Hit 300 mounts on my main World of Warcraft account
Stay loyal to WoW and continue to be a reliable gold teacher
Start my Patreon
Launch the Professional, paid-for Gold Guide
Watch the Warcraft movie
Update the website theme, to make searching easier, and phone/tablet viewing even better
Tidy up the Garrison Gold Guide and the Free Gold Making Email Course introduction pages with the help of someone who can write better marketing letters
Continue to provide a helpful, free, gold making support service by email.
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 32 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling snatch lists, and farming gold making.
How To Join the Spectral Tiger Owners’ Club
What is the Spectral Tiger Owners’ Club?
The club is a way of
- Rewarding players who have bought the Gold Cap value Swift Spectral Tiger
- Showcasing different ways of making gold
- Increasing the feelings of inclusivity
- Learning (from the members) new methods of getting gold that TGQ might not have covered
Membership is open to all players who
- have bought the Swift Spectral Tiger with gold
- have useful information to share about how they made gold
- deserve the respect and admiration of other players
To Join the Club
- Check out one of the other member’s interviews
- Copy out the interview questions
- Think about the questions
- Consider what information you have that could help other players
- Email TGQ either direct or using the contact form on the website
- Please don’t tweet!
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 32 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling snatch lists, and farming gold making.
Recommended Gold Makers Blogs and LiveStreams
World of Warcraft Gold Makers that I recommend
These players can help you make gold in Warcraft.
Speciality transmog. Began only a year after me, so is very experienced. Twitch Blog Twitter
Well known for his transmog TSM groups. Youtube Blog Twitter
Especially for his youtube pet leveling guide Twitch Twitter Youtube
Recommended for his thoughtful commentary Blog includes podcast Twitch Twitter
Livestreams in French, but knows his stuff, understands market economics and trade skill master, and is very friendly, will chat in English if you’re polite. Bring food and dainty toes. Twitch
Very occasionally livestreams, tweets or blogs Blog, included podcast Twitter
Simply the world’s best World of Warcraft Gold Makers’ Forum. Also sell a Pro Guide
Work on TSM and offer their full TSM profiles Twitch
One of the TSM devs Twitch Twitter
Appears at first glance to be a farmer, but actually is very knowledgeable about TSM, professions, cross realm hopping and macros.
These are places to go to learn about gold making, rather than gold farming.
Some of the best Farmers:
Wowprofitz, Ray. Twitch Also does other games, and art.
Latirra (currently inactive due to IRL problems, hoping to return soon) Twitch Twitter
Old Bess (recently got into TSM also) Youtube
Dozerbob Streams during American evening time Twitch Twitter
Commentators:
Yourwowmoney Long-running podcast, covers Warcraft gold making, pets, raids, and other Blizzard games Podcast
If the guy is NOT listed here, then I haven’t had opportunity to review and check out the quality of their work, and so don’t recommend them yet.
I won’t be keeping this list up to date, this is a snapshot of World of Warcraft gold makers and some farmers in December 2015
Some gold makers and farmers welcome questions 24/7, but it is always best to be polite. Follow my how to ask questions guide
Gold makers I have recommended do focus on making gold, on understanding or manipulating the realm economy, dealing with competitors, handing sales, addons such as trade skill master and auctionator, and will help you with a daily routine, quests, and professions.
I struggle with the number of farmers on youtube offering x,000g per hour, but not able to explain the selling part, and I struggle with players on twitch who showcase farming either the old Mists of Pandaria Vale/Guo Lai Halls or AQ20 paired with Phat Lewt’s transmog list. This would be better described as item acquisition.
Being left out of the gold makers list does not mean that these are bad gold makers, perhaps I simply don’t have enough experience in order to recommend the resource to you yet.
Other recommended websites are: Reddit Wow Economy, The Undermine Journal, Wowuction.com and Tradeskillmaster.com
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 32 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling snatch lists, and farming gold making.
Flipping Minion of Grumpus, Buy to Resell
Flipping means buying an item to resell at a higher price.
It’s time to buy your Minion of Grumpus
Even if you do not intend to resell your Minion of Grumpus, you can use my advice to acquire a mount for yourself.
This advice was first broadcast on my twitter account on afternoon of 23 December 2015. Follow me on twitter for more.
Christmas Eve and Christmas Day 2015
Today and tomorrow, keep your eye on Minion of Grumpus prices.
Why keep an eye on Minion of Grumpus mounts?
We are halfway through the Winters Veil holiday in World of Warcraft.
Halfway until the mounts stop being available.
Halfway until the price explosion.
The Mount is only available during Winter Veil seasonal event so once it is over, the supply available will only be the number that have been hoarded in player’s banks. No one will be able to open a Savage Gift when the Winter Veil dailies, granting merry supplies, are no longer available.
How much should I pay for my Minion of Grumpus
I don’t know the exact prices on your server. Not only is each server different, and each area (EU/US/ANZ) but this is a mount that has not been seen before. Players are generally undercutting each other slightly on the AH and then selling for however much the buyer will pay. No set price.
What I do know, however, is the expected price curve for the Minion of Grumpus. While I can’t see the future, it’s possible to extrapolate and predict the changes in prices, using previous models.
We know that supply and demand effect the prices and numbers of mounts available. We know that after January, you won’t be able to get more mounts until possibly next Winter Veil.
That’s why I can predict a price curve similar to other rare mounts in short supply.
A quick MS-Paint graph shows my prediction for the prices of your Minion of Grumpus
(I’m not great at MS-Paint, don’t judge!)
Beginning with a high price at beginning of Winter Veil.
Increasing supply drives down the prices.
Awareness of a coming end-of-supply starts to drive up prices.
However, nervousness about the actual value of the mount and unsureness about whether prices are going to climb is going to create a few “bumps” at the bottom of the price curve, as players attempt to buy the mount at its lowest value, only for sellers to react by pulling out mounts from their bank, before they realise that the price is ready to climb and deciding to save their mount instead. As this supply dries up, prices will climb.
The midway point of Winter Veil is about the right time for the “bumpy bottom” of the price curve.
If your price at the bottom is 40,000g, expect it to be 80,000g at the end of Winter Veil, and if it is 60,000g expect 100-110k by the end, with prices continuing to rise.
The speed of the climb/rise in prices depends entire on the greediness of the sellers on your realm compared to their patience. Personally, I can wait for years with an item, and have recently made some sales of Scarlet Mail sets and Elementium Geodes. Naturally other players are different and might just want to cash in and reinvest their gold, or simply spend it.
Once we get through that, “nervous bumpy bottom” then the rise will be steady
My MS-Paint price prediction was backed up by The Undermine Journal, brought to my attention by Sivation on twitter
These are the prices (with supply in red) of the Swift Lovebird. You can clearly see the effect of the Valentines seasonal event on supply and prices.
I predict a steeper and higher amount for the Minion of Grumpus simply because this is the first year it is seen. Remember how the Swift Lovebird was higher in demand in its first year of release? There is less demand the subsequent years.
Remember
Only a small percentage of all mounts are on the AH. MANY are in ppl’s banks, waiting.
Minion of Grumpus
Minion of Grumpus Mount price changes
If you are on a busy server, the prices could change from minute to minute
I would also keep an eye on all the other items that drop from savage gift, although their curve wont be as steep, as they were available in other ways and continue to be so.
To put my money where my mouth is, I bought a Grumpus, just to test waters. Prices since increased. I still think there will be some bumps at the turning point due to nerves.
Be prepared for a temporary increase in supply (and low price bump) on xmas day due to ppl logging on to get presents.
What to do?
So just keep an eye out between now and xmas day for that turning point.
There will be a few false starts due to nerves and then BOOM
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 32 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling snatch lists, and farming gold making.
On the first day of Winters Veil, my true love gave to me …
Winter Patterns
Players with Leatherworking, Tailoring or Cooking receive mail from Greatfather Winter with free patterns this year (2015).
Tailors get either Green Winter Clothes (Horde) or Red Winter Clothes (Alliance) patterns.
Leatherworkers get the Winter Boots recipe and players with cooking get Hot Apple Cider recipe.
To activate your free gift, do the short breadcrumb quest beginning at a smokywood pastures goblin to visit Greatfather Winter in Orgrimmar or Ironforge. < – awaiting confirmation
Red winter clothing
Materials
4 Bolt of Runecloth (16 Runecloth)
Bolt of Woolen Cloth (3 Wool Cloth)
Red Dye (2)
Rune Thread
The pattern is also sold by Alliance Smokeywood Pastures in Stormwind, Exodar, Ironforge or Garrision. The goblin vendors are FRIENDLY to horde, and if you can sneak past the guards, you can pick one up at the Alliance vendor! It costs only 50s and it’s bind on pick up, so only buy it with a character with Tailoring profession. Alternatively, you could take the easy way out and pick one up in your horde garrison. Alliance tailors receive this as a gift on the first day of winters veil.
Green winter clothing
Materials
4 Bolt of Runecloth (uses 16 Runecloth)
Bolt of Woolen Cloth (uses 3 Wool Cloth)
Green Dye (2)
Rune Thread
The pattern is also sold by Horde Smokeywood Pastures in Shattrath, Exodar, Undercity, Orgrimmar or Thunder Bluff.
Again, some of the goblin vendors are FRIENDLY to Alliance, the pattern costs 50s and it’s bind on pick up, so only buy it with a character with Tailoring profession. Best place to try is Eebee Jinglepocket in Shattrath. If you’re a horde tailor, you should have received it from Greatfather Winter already.
Green winter clothes
Winter Boots
The Winter Boots are a BoP Leatherworking pattern.
Available to both factions, and purchasable by the Smokywood Pasture goblins, including in your garrison, Shattrath and your capital cities.
Materials
Copper Bar
Bolt of Woolen Cloth (3 Wool Cloth)
4 Rugged Leather
Rune Thread
The Winter Veil hat is a BoP drop from some dungeon and raid bosses. It completes your outfit.
Not a tailor or a leatherworker, don’t worry, Greatfather Winter has some profession-specific recipes in the mail for you too.
Great Father Winter
Profiting from Winter Veil Clothes
For beginners to crafting, simply check that the materials cost is lower than the AH sales price (minus 5% cut) and if so, post your crafted item.
Sell Price minus Crafting Price = Profit
Supply and Demand
However, you will have to take into account the other sellers, and of course the demand of buyers. Too high a price, and the buyers will not buy, instead waiting for the price to drop. During that time, more sellers will continue to undercut each other, perhaps creating walls (where several items are posted at the same price to block off any higher prices) or even anxiously deep undercutting each other.
I saw a flood of winter veil clothes and boots at the beginning of winter veil, when players who had saved up their materials flooded the auction house. I’m now noticing that this flood has died down and more gold can now be made in the middle of Winter Veil than at the very first 1-2 days.
You can watch the supply and demand on your own server auction house simply by searching the item and taking note of the price. Do this a few times during the day over the course of the holiday season and you’ll soon get a grasp of how many are selling for what price. For players who aren’t in the Auction House as much, you can do something similar by searching your item at Wowuction.com (that’s wow auction without the a)
Click for full size image
You can easily see when Winters Veil hit, and the supply increased and price dropped.
Posting
Put too many on Auction House at once, and you risk being soon undercut and losing your AH deposit. Post more than 2-3 if you want to create a wall and send a message to competitors “this far and no further” but be aware that there is a cost to you for creating a wall.
React to your market
I advise you to put up 2-3 of each item for now, and then check to see what happens. If undercut, the market is saturating. If they are bought immediately, perhaps they were slightly underpriced and you could risk a slightly higher price with the next posting. If they sell within half an hour to an hour, then make another few more, and post those, restocking the AH.
Flipping
With winter clothing and winter boots’ materials so easily and cheaply obtained, there is no opportunity for flipping. Flipping, you remember, means buy low and resell at a profit. However, you can see that the price for winter clothing was considerably higher in September. So if you are determined to buy for resale, you might make a profit in September 2016!
Other opportunities with Winter Clothing set
If your server market is totally saturated with both red and green clothing and winter boots, you can travel backwards up the crafting chain.
For example, recently I found that woolen cloth was selling for a high price compared to both its normal selling price, and the normal crafting cost of the materials (wool cloth). So if the end product isn’t profitable, other parts of the crafting process could be. Check all the parts of course.
On the first day of winter veil, a murloc gave to me …
Everyone knows that on the first day of Winters Veil, the correct gift is a gnome’s head in a pine tree!
About the Author
The Gold Queen is written by Alyzande. With many level 100s, 9 years expertise in making gold, 11 garrisons, 17k+ achievements, 1593 days played, and over 32 million gold earned. The Gold Queen blog teaches you how to make gold playing World of Warcraft using ethical trading, auction house flipping, crafting, reselling snatch lists, and farming gold making.